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[cgreek:00125] Re: unified reference system
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- Subject: [cgreek:00125] Re: unified reference system
- From: Robin Smith <rasmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 05:59:17 -0500
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>>>>> "Naoto" == Naoto Takahashi <ntakahas@xxxxxxxx> writes:
Naoto> Does this mean that the triplet <Stephanus page, section,
Naoto> line> is not a unique citation in the TLG?
That is correct. There are actually two volumes in the Stephanus
edition, but the Stephanos volume number is not part of the standard
citation (and does not appear in the TLG citation). For example,
"11b1" is a citation both in the Euthyphro and in the Philebus.
Naoto> If so, Aristotle should be the only author whose works
Naoto> benefit from inter-work jump. (considering your comment
Naoto> below)
Naoto> If not, Aristotle and Plato should be the only two authors
Naoto> whose works benefit from inter-work jump.
I was only using Plato and Aristotle as *examples*. My point was that
even in the case of these two very familiar authors, there does not exist
a unique citation, within a common framework, for every line of every
work. Let me spell out some more details.
--Even in Aristotle, a Bekker page+column+line does not uniquely identify
a location *in the TLG*. The TLG includes alternate versions of
parts of the De Anima and the Physics, and within these texts the
citations are by Bekker reference.
--Those works not included in Bekker's edition (notably the Constitution
of Athens, which was discovered at the end of the 19th century) of
course have no Bekker citations.
--Fragments are cited according to a variety of different numbering
systems (from different editors). I suggest that you look at the
variety here yourself: scroll through the three collections of
Fragmenta and the Testimonia in TLG0086.txt.
--Though *almost* all of Plato's text can be identified by Stephanus
reference, those references are ambiguous if the Stephanus volume
number is not supplied; and, in accordance with common practice, the
TLG does not supply it.
--Even in Plato, there are a few bits without Stephanus citations.
This is only a set of examples drawn from Plato and Aristotle.
There probably are some authors (especially authors of only a few
works) for whom unique citations do exist across works (including
the trivial case of authors with a single work). What I'm trying to
say is that any sort of cross-work jump would have to be based on
the details of a particular author's case and is going to take a whole
lot more than a few dozen lines of elisp to implement.
BTW, I've just noticed that the current version of the tlg utilities
doesn't correctly read the citations in the second collection of
Epigrams in Plato (tlg0059.idt work 41).